There are a million football podcasts out there but none quite like this.

The Kick It Outcast is our first and official podcast. Using our unrivalled contacts and access to all aspects of the game we all love, the pod will showcase the huge breadth of the work we do and have done over 25 years.

The first episodes feature conversations with key people who run football on their hopes for inclusion and equality in football – we talk to coaches, campaigners, organisers and players.

We go behind the scenes with our Education Manager, Troy Townsend, as he speaks to players at Liverpool’s academy, we hear a debate about whether new media is showing the more traditional parts of the press the way forward on diversity and there’s an introduction to the “Game Changers” – the next generation of people who will run the sport.  

Presented and produced by our own team, these programmes are a must-listen for anyone who cares about the future of football.

Download The Kick It Outcast on iTunes or listen to it below.


Episode 1: 25 Years of Kick It Out

A host of people from the football world including the FA Chairman Greg Clarke, discuss their favourite moments for equality and diversity in football across the last 25 years before looking ahead to the next quarter-century.


Episode 2: Meet the Game Changers

Meet the Game Changers! Kick It Out teamed up with the UEFA Foundation for Children to launch the Game Changers programme, which identifies and creates the future leads of football.


Episode 3: A Day Out at Liverpool FC Academy

Kick It Out's Education Manager, Troy Townsend, travels to Kirkby alongside ex-professional footballer Marcus Gayle to deliver an educational workshop to the club's under-18 and under-23 age groups as part of the Equality Inspires programme.

The educational initiative, which is delivered to all clubs in the Premier League Academy Programme, has been praised by Reds boss Jurgen Klopp.


Episode 4: Kick It Out Live

Highlights from our Kick It Out Live event, which officially marked our 25th year of campaigning for equality in football. Our very own Crystal Davis is joined by AFTV host Robbie Lyle, as well as the Guardian's chief sports reporter Martha Kelner and Copa90 director and presenter Eli Mengem.

They discuss whether new forms of media relegating inequality in the industry. The evening also features speeches from Kick It Out's chair Lord Herman Ouseley and ex-professional footballer Paul Elliott, plus a lively debate on the point of football.


Episode 5: Faith and Football - Jewish Players in the Game

Kick It Out ambassador and Wycombe Wanderers defender Joe Jacobson talks to Steve Jones about his experiences as one of very few British Jewish professional footballers.

Meanwhile, another Jewish player, Hemel Hempstead Town's Scott Shulton, discusses his career to date and being victim of antisemitic abuse from a former teammate during a match.


Episode 6: Non League Day

It's Non League Day and Kick It Out is at Burgess Hill for a fly-on-the-wall insight into life at a non-league football club. The Hillians are bottom of the league and without a win all season. Is this the day their fortunes turn around?


Episode 7: Women's Football - The State of Play

One of the good news stories about football in the last few years is the rise and rise of the women's game. We talk to some key figures in the sport - including Lionesses manager Phil Neville and vice-captain Jordan Nobbs - about where it is now and how far it has to go.


Episode 8: Non-league unplugged - behind the scenes in pre-season

Ever wondered what goes on behind the scenes at a football club, like how much players get paid and the scenes in the dressing room at half-time after a stinking first-half performance?

Kick It Out’s Osei Sankofa combines his work as our education officer with being first team coach at Welling United of the National League South. He takes us behind the curtain for a fly-on-the-wall look at life in non-league football as the Wings prepare for the new season.

Warning: there’s some swearing along the way.


Episode 9: British South Asians in football: the view from the boardroom

Raj Athwal has seen a lot in his 25 years in football, from promotion and relegation through to administration and, in one case, liquidation. He's even written a book about his experiences.

Reflecting on a quarter century working in the game at six different clubs, Raj talks discrimination, the benefits of diversity at the top and what separates League One Burton Albion from their rivals. 


Episode 10: FA Cup Special - The Quest to Round One

Every year the FA Cup creates new stories, heroes and giant-killings. We're back behind the scenes at Welling United as they bid to create some history of their own. Could this be their year?


Episode 11: The Rooney Rule

What actually is it? Why do we need it? And does it even work?

The Rooney Rule has been a controversial development in the debate over opportunities for BAME managers. But should clubs who don’t comply with it face points deductions and fines?

That’s the view of Dr Patrick McGurk and Dr Leroi Henry. Here, they tell Kick It Out why they arrived at such a conclusion.


Episode 12: Getting the Third Degree - the Laurie Cunningham story

As part of our twenty-fifth anniversary, we commissioned a play based on the extraordinary life and legacy of trailblazing footballer Laurie Cunningham.

Kick It Out followed the team involved in the production from their first rehearsals through to the show's final week. This is Getting the Third Degree.


Episode 13: Getting the Third Degree in Conversation - part one

Highlights from the first of two panel discussions on the Kick It Out-commissioned play Getting the Third Degree. Ex-England cricketer Chris Lewis joins Laurie Cunningham’s niece, Rhodene, and The Voice's Rodney Hinds to share memories of Laurie and discuss the show.


Episode 14: Getting the Third Degree in Conversation - part two

Highlights from the second panel discussion on the Kick It Out-commissioned play Getting the Third Degree. Former Tottenham Hotspur and England defender Ledley King joins Kick It Out chair Sanjay Bhandari and ex-Spurs Women defender Renee Hector, now of Charlton Athletic, to discuss the rise of racism in football and what needs to be done. Renee also shares her story of being a victim of racist abuse from a fellow player in the women's game.