The latest episodes of the Kick It OutCast are out now and available on all podcast platforms!

In one episode we follow the production team behind Getting the Third Degree, the play we commissioned about the extraordinary life of Laurie Cunningham which toured the country throughout Black History Month. 

We also present highlights of two panel discussions we hosted on the show, featuring ex-Tottenham and England defender Ledley King and Renee Hector, who was racially abused by a fellow player last season. 

Elsewhere, we take an in-depth look at the Rooney Rule with two academics who say clubs not obeying it should face points deductions and fines. 

We also go back behind the scenes at Welling United as they bid to make the first round of the FA Cup. But can they avoid a banana skin against their lowly opponents?

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Episode 10: FA Cup Special - The Quest to Round One

Every year the FA Cup creates new stories, heroes and giant-killings. We're back behind the scenes at Welling United as they bid to create some history of their own. Could this be their year?


Episode 11: The Rooney Rule

What actually is it? Why do we need it? And does it even work?

The Rooney Rule has been a controversial development in the debate over opportunities for BAME managers. But should clubs who don’t comply with it face points deductions and fines?

That’s the view of Dr Patrick McGurk and Dr Leroi Henry. Here, they tell Kick It Out why they arrived at such a conclusion.


Episode 12: Getting the Third Degree - the Laurie Cunningham story

As part of our twenty-fifth anniversary, we commissioned a play based on the extraordinary life and legacy of trailblazing footballer Laurie Cunningham.

Kick It Out followed the team involved in the production from their first rehearsals through to the show's final week. This is Getting the Third Degree.


Episode 13: Getting the Third Degree in Conversation - part one

Highlights from the first of two panel discussions on the Kick It Out-commissioned play Getting the Third Degree. Ex-England cricketer Chris Lewis joins Laurie Cunningham’s niece, Rhodene, and The Voice's Rodney Hinds to share memories of Laurie and discuss the show.


Episode 14: Getting the Third Degree in Conversation - part two

Highlights from the second panel discussion on the Kick It Out-commissioned play Getting the Third Degree. Former Tottenham Hotspur and England defender Ledley King joins Kick It Out chair Sanjay Bhandari and ex-Spurs Women defender Renee Hector, now of Charlton Athletic, to discuss the rise of racism in football and what needs to be done. Renee also shares her story of being a victim of racist abuse from a fellow player in the women's game.